Dear friends, Angela was just diagnosed this past Spring with State IV Colon Cancer. I know Angela because her husband Chris was the youth minister at our Parish for some time. They have two beautiful little children. I am posting this information on here so that we can help spread their story and try to get them as much help as possible. I ask: 1. Please pray for her healing. 2. Help spread the word and repost and tweet this as much as possible. 3. If you can contribute monitarily, that would be great!
Here is more information. God bless you all, Mama Erika
On April 24 of this year (Easter Sunday), we learned that my wife, Angela Faddis, had a large mass growing in her colon and tumors on her liver. Later tests would confirm that she has Stage IV Colorectal Cancer which has spread to the liver. (read more about our story here)
Her cancer is extremely advanced and doctors have informed us that it is considered “incurable”. They hoped that with some aggressive chemotherapy they would be able to shrink the tumors enough to operate and bring her to a “curative” state. Their hope was to achieve this ambitious goal after 8 weeks of treatment.
On July 1st, we found out that this aggressive protocol of three chemotherapy drugs gave a mixed result. The tumors in the liver had shrunk slightly, but the tumor in the colon had actually grown and was now pressing in on the bladder and ureter. The doctor said that the news was “not good, not bad, just different.” The problem of course is that for us, “just different” is still not good.
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A New Approach
This news has helped us realize that we need to do even more. We firmly believe that a more comprehensive and integrative approach is what Angela needs to survive this cancer. We were home in Phoenix last week and met with doctors to discuss other options.
We were excited to learn of some aggressive protocols and advanced treatments along with targeted radiation and chemotherapy that would give Angela a much better chance for survival. We have heard countless stories of survivors and even have a family friend who survived late stage cancer using these same protocols. We believe that with an integrated approach, we can give Angela the best course of treatment possible and in turn give her the best chance of survival.
We are now trying to raise funds to get Angela these treatments so that she continue to be a mother to our two children, a wife to me, a daughter, a sister, and a friend to those who love her. Some of the treatments will exceed our insurance limits and therefore insurance will only be able to cover some of the costs. We are praying that you will partner with us to raise these funds.
What we need:
We estimate that our ultimate financial need will be around $65,000. However, in order to at least begin this aggressive protocol – we need to raise approximately $30,000. This will pay for the treatments that are not covered by insurance. We need to raise this money quickly because it is essential that Angela begins treatment right away.
We will have to move our family to Phoenix during treatment and our prayers have already been answered in that we were offered a free home for the next four months to allow us time to transition and get the treatment that Angela needs. Now we can focus on raising the funds that we need to move forward.
This is Possible
While our goal of raising $30,000 is ambitious, I believe it is fully possible. Back in January of 2010, I was a part of launching a campaign called “Fast for Haiti” which was launched through my blog site and FB page. In that campaign we raised over $8,000 in direct contributions for aid to Haiti and several high schools and universities also led their own versions of the campaign. I’ve estimated that we raised over $10k in that simple campaign.
Later that year, when our dear friend, Melanie Pritchard, suffered an Amniotic Fluid Embolism while giving birth, doctors had told her family to say goodbye. Many prayers were being lifted up through Twitter and Facebook. I felt the need to tell Melanie’s story and posted a blog about her need for prayers. By the next day 10,000 people had visited my site and over 2400 people shared her story on Facebook, resulting in well over 150,000 people seeing Melanie’s story through Facebook. Melanie is alive today because of the countless prayers that were voiced all over the world. It wasn’t just me spreading the word, but many people tweeted, and posted Facebook statuses that led to a firestorm of prayer on her behalf.
These stories give me hope that we can find the support we need.
Why Give to Us?
We often see people raising money to find a “cure” for cancer. There are tons of great organizations out there that you can give your time, your talent, and your treasure to for this great cause. What we are asking for is help for our immediate need. Your money will not go to finding a cure for cancer, but it will go towards trying to cure my wife’s cancer. Obviously I think a lot of people would beg the question, “why should we give money to you?” It is a fair question.
All I can say is that as Angela’s husband I am desperate for a way to help her heal from this cancer. I desperately desire for her to be cured of this. We have two children, Gianna, who is four and Augustine who is two. The reasons why our children need their mother are many. We all need her. We can’t imagine life without her.
While we are certainly going to trust God with whatever He allows to happen, we also believe that we are called to hope in all things. Our hope is that Angela can live through this cancer. Our hope today is that you will help us meet our financial need so that we can give her the best treatment possible. Our hope is that you will help spread the word and be our advocates to raise these funds.
What We Need & What You Get
Our starting goal for this campaign is $30,000. We are asking that each donor give a gift of $30 or more.
This goal is lofty, but if you break it down it looks like this:
IndieGoGo encourages that we give some perk to donors. All we can really offer is our prayers of thankgiving for any act of generosity. We will hold a Mass of Thanksgiving in the Phoenix Area for all of those how have helped us on this road. You will be invited and you will be prayed for. I hope that is benefit enough.
Other Ways You Can Help
SPREAD THE WORD: I know what you’re saying “what if I can’t give that much?” Well what if you could help raise it? We are asking for either your own support or for your help in raising the funds that we need. Would you consider setting a goal of how much you can raise? Maybe it’s $30, or maybe it’s $600 – either way it will help tremendously.
There are many share tools on this page to help you spread the word. We would love it if you could commit in the comments section below to raise a certain amount. This will only help to get others involved.
We ask that regardless of your ability to give, you might pray for us. We have been so grateful for the countless prayers on our behalf and we humbly ask that you join us in prayer. God is bigger than cancer and we trust in him.
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My father died when I was about to turn six, that was in 1979. My mom was 25, in a new country, with three small girls ages five, three, and one. My dad was a military hero in my country, my mom was our hero in our lives . My dad died for our freedom and choose wisely (he told her this three years before he died) when he selected her to be our mother, his wife. To honor her on her birthday and for her to have a wonderful memory of our kids, her 12 granchildren, I’ve made a photo book for her.
I posted a review and Giveaway for 3 Boys and a Dog. Since I couldn’t post it on her blog, I’m posting it here. Enjoy! If you want to try to win a 20-page photo book, please visit me over at Kelli’s blog, 3 Boys and a Dog. Here’s my mom’s birthday book of the grand kids:
In honor of all Fathers {the Principals of our Schools} on Father’s Day, we introduce Mama Jen in her first Guest Blog on Raising {& Teaching} Little Saints, discussing the crucial role that fathers play in the success of the home schools.
The Principal of the School When I first brought up the topic of home education to my husband, his initial reaction was “no way, our kids will be weird and they will miss all kinds of normal stuff!”. Thankfully, we’ve come a long way baby! Now my husband is our biggest cheerleader and supporter of our home education journey.
Husbands can be such an integral part of the day, whether or not they are actively involved in teaching a class. Some dads are responsible for science, others for math, maybe some are in charge of the history lessons for the day. In our house, Dad isn’t responsible for a particular subject. He takes on a much broader role. He’s more like the superintendent, because he is also responsible for funding, maintenance, coach, and cheerleader.
Maybe some home educating moms desire a husband who will take charge of math, or science, or whatever. But my husband has a job that keeps him more than busy, I would prefer his time with us to be spent on more relaxed family activities like reading aloud, nature walks, bike rides, etc
What he does do is vitally important to the success of our day/month/year. He is a tremendous source of encouragement for all of us. Just the mere fact that I know he prays for us during the day is extremely uplifting.
He has gone from thinking home education was odd and our kids would be “weird”, to seeing it as been a great opportunity for our family. Sometimes the kids will say something throughout the course of dinner or anywhere really and he will catch my eye and say “see they do remember stuff!”.
My husband is a great sounding board for curriculum choices. He and I know our children best and he sometimes has a different insight into a particular child. He often can see the whole picture and not be consumed by the nitty gritty of daily tasks. Many times he can see progress in a particular area that I have missed.
Plain and simple, I couldn’t do this home education journey without his support, encouragement, and laughter!
How has your husband enriched your home education journey?
~ Mama Jen
ABOUT MAMA JEN Jen is a wife to one amazing husband and mom to six energetic kids. Visit Forever, For Always, No Matter What where she blogs about their Catholic faith, homeschooling and adoption.
Third Update (July 12th, 2011): Again from Bishop Gracida’s blog, here is a Well Reasoned and balanced appraisal of the Father John Corapi Case. Each point that Mr. Stevens expresses here will help you fully understand this whole situation a little better (I wish the Catholic reporting agencies would have taken a more similar approach, possibly gone to prayer about this before posting their rash judgement about this man). Father Corapi, we love you for all the hard work you did for 20 years of service to our Holy Mother Church! Thank you for all the souls you brought home and for speaking the truth always! God bless you and keep you and may the Blessed Mother protect you during this time of trial. Mr. Stevens ends his post on the good Bishop’s blog the best way: “Let’s just pray for the eternal salvation of everyone involved. Ultimately, that is the only thing that counts.”
UPDATE (June 19th, 2011): Please read Bishop Emeritus Garcida’s reflection on this which has caused so much confusion and sadness (and division). Please continue to pray for all priests. I’m praying that Father Corapi has a change of heart since his SOLT superior is allowing him an opportunity to change his mind. Pray with me.
In addition, since the news has spread like wildfire, I went about reading some really well written posts on this issue, most very charitable asking for prayers (which, I believe is the most important thing we can do), and other just being very sinful in their words. I think this blog post over at The Rosary Trail, states it best as to what we ALL need to do about this situation:
“The worst thing that could possibly happen with this Father Corapi news that everyone is buzzing about is that an occasion of evil could occur in which the Devil will take full advantage of the adverse situation at hand and use it to pull people out of a state of peacefulness and into a state of chaos. After all, he is the master of deceit, lies and trickery and will stop at nothing when it comes to ruining a soul.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with expressing opinions on the Father Corapi news and discussing the reasons he chose to do what he did and say what he said. There isn’t even anything wrong with completely disagreeing with his choice of words, manner or conduct! It’s okay to be disappointed, confused, bewildered, sad, disheartened, abandoned – all of these are normal human emotions and it would be strange not to be feeling something here. But keeping these emotions in check and not allowing oneself to lose control is the secret of how Mary lived her life. She felt pain all of her life from the prophecy of Simeon to the burial of Jesus. She, too, experienced sadness and disappointment, abandonment and fear and everything adverse all of us have ever felt and more adversity than we will ever feel. But she didn’t fly off the handle in attack mode when adversity struck; what she did do was pray.
Please place your trust in the Lord and don’t allow the Devil to infuse his poisons into the cracks of openings you are giving him by letting this Father Corapi news break you down. Seal the cracks and say the prayers and the Devil won’t have a fleeting chance because you didn’t give it to him.”
Here’s my original post from last Saturday: Let me start with this…..a CATHOLIC FACT: Once a man’s hands are consecrated he is always a priest…because it is a SACRAMENT….priestly faculties can be taken from them or they can choose to leave but the fact of the matter is that he is a priest! In addition, the Sacrament of Holy Orders (like Baptism and Confirmation) leaves an imprint in your SOUL. He can be dispensed of his obligations as a priest (or even forbidden to act as a priest); but he remains a priest forever.
If you haven’t read or heard Father John Corapi’s statement {see the youtube video below}, please do and then come back so we can chat about this.
“Fr. John Corapi’s much anticipated announcement, proclaiming the introduction of “The Black SheepDog.” Within this announcement is an update regarding the most-recent accusations, his response, his mission, as well as his gratitude for all who have supported his priesthood. For more information please visit his blog-site: www.TheBlackSheepDog.us ! As always, God Love You, and God Bless You!”
Friends, I’ve read people compare this to what happened to Padre Pio but also use it to accuse Father Corapi of not being humble and of being disobedient. I humbly must disagree. I think that he is acting in obedience. Obedience takes many forms, and in an age of disobedient bishops, failing their Apostolic mandate, it is unjust to brand obedience to the Truth, to the Church, to the Faith, as disobedience.
As his new motto says: Truth. Hope. Unleashed.
Father Corapi is left in an untenable situation. My beloved calls it being “black-holed.” He will be left on indefinite suspension with little or no hope to be exonerated. Todd has known two priests who were black-holed where he used to live in Syracuse, and we knew (all too briefly) Father Andrew Dowgeirt in Miami, and went to confession with him. He made the mistake of detailing improprieties of his pastor, and then the pastor after that, and instead of him being treated with respect for detailing misdeeds, he was black-holed by the Archbishop at the time. Now we see Father Corapi made to forsake his active priesthood so that he can continue to preach.
He has said he will speak more broadly than just the Church. Good!
As my Beloved worded it best:
“I think that the age of the laity is now taking hold in earnest. We will not be silenced. We will not be silent. Shepherds can ignore us, can try to silence us, can neglect us, but we can no longer be silent. God gave Himself for our salvation. He gave us one Church. He gave us one faith, one fold, one shepherd. And the Modernists and Liberals and crypto-Protestants that would seek to take our Faith, our Sacraments, our holy priests, and our parishes from us will no longer be allowed to do it. Error will be fought, it will be cut down, and it will be cast out. You can remove the collar from the priest, but you cannot remove the Sacrament from his soul. Ad multos annos, Father Corapi. Ad multos annos.”
I also invite you to read Father Z’s blog post on this situation, he invites us to be charitable and to pray:
and last, but not least, I invite you to join me in prayer for our Bishops!
Here are way to keep in touch with him:
(Father) John Corapi’s blog, and his new moniker, is The Black Sheepdog.
No matter how you feel about {Father} Corapi’s decision, you must agree with me that this is one sad day in our beautiful Church! My heart aches…but at the same time it makes me want to run out and receive the Sacraments more often and to drop on my knees and pray even harder!
Blessings,
– Erika (and Todd)
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We just simply LOVE science experiments in our Homeschool! Science is really an area that we truly enjoy but we were lacking a lot of the necessary tools and equipment to adequetely create some fun and educational experiments for our kids. This is why I was so excited to have the great opportunity to work with Timberdoodle, Co. and review their productPrimary Science Set by Learning Resources, winner of theOppenheim Toy Portfolio2010 Gold Seal Award! 🙂
My first reaction when I opened the kit was “WOW!” because it contained everything you need for some fun experiments, including the safety goggles! I love how the 12 lab items are bigger than normal and “chunky” for little preschool and toddler hands. The items included in the kit are an eye dropper, protective goggles, tweezers, plastic beakers, and test tubes.
Here’s an overview of the kit from Timberdoodle’s YouTube Channel:
Our Science Lab ready to go!
Another great feature this product has is the 10 Experiment Cards that come with it. The cards are big and they have pictures to help with the beginning reader be a great scientist! 🙂 You still need to read the instructions on the back but at least my little ones felt so grown up looking at the card and checking to make sure that they had all of the equipment they would need for their experiments. I worked with the three middle children ages six, four, and two. The box does state that this set is for ages 4+, but I wanted to test and see if you could use it with a toddler, especially since he is almost three. I actually had him do most of the mixing colors experiment since we’ve done this in the past with the other two kids. Above is a picture of all Lab set up {yes I used the word Lab with them}.
The kit comes with these 10 experiment cards.
You do need to provide the different items for the actual experiments as this is a kit to be reused with other ones besides the 10 cards contained. Most of the items (besides the bugs) are everyday household/kitchen items, so I didn’t think it was a big deal to round them up. We went ahead and tried all 10 experiments. But for the purpose of this review I will focus on two: 1. The Volcano Exploding and 2. Mixing Colors.
I had the children double check that we had all the items we needed (all they had to do is look at the cards) and I called out the items as I lifted them {this exposes them to Lab vocabulary}. Another thing I did was talk about the importance of protecting your eyes in a Lab and how to have fun but be safe.
Jojo pouring the baking powder.
Everyone got a turn doing something.
Even the little guy got to shake and mix colors! He felt like such a big boy!
“Shake, shake, shake” he sang as he mixed the colors.
I definitely would recommend this product as a great asset to your Science Curriculum…it makes it fun and hands on. It is great for anyone with young children, it will help them get interested in science at an early age and expose them to lab vocabulary. I am already looking for more experiments we can do using this fabulous little kit!
But do you want to know what I love best about this product? That it came fromTimberdoodlea company that began in 1985 by homeschoolers and now serves second-generation Timberdoodle customers! “What began as a back porch venture has now grown to include two warehouses and an office, and the children have grown to become customer service reps, web technicians, warehouse workers, order processors, and more. Timberdoodle is still run by the original owners, the Deffinbaughs; they and their five children form the bulk of the work crew.”
While visiting their site, I found that Timberdoodle has a program for loyal and return customers, they call itDoodle Dollars. Basically, you get points every time you shop with them and can use those points to buy new homeshool items! 🙂 It’s a win, win situation, go check it out:
Learning Resources is a leading manufacturer of learning toys and innovative hands-on educational materials for classrooms worldwide. For 25 years, Learning Resources has been a trusted source for teachers and parents for quality, award-winning educational products in math, science, social studies, language, language arts, literacy, reading, early childhood, and more.
DISCLOSURE: I was provided this product from Timberdoodle in exchange for my honest review of it. This is my opinion about the product and its use with my own children. In no way shape or form is my receiving this product for free a factor in my HONEST review of this item.
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Just got an email from Santa Cruz Media (his publishing company):
“We understand many of you would like an update–any update–on the status of Fr. John Corapi. Please be assured that as soon as Fr. Corapi updates us with the status of these events, we will utilize all avenues of communications to update you, his fans, and followers.
Recently, Fr. Corapi held an internal office meeting and informed us that he is “not extinguished!” He expressed his continued desire to help deliver a message of hope to those who seek it and he informed us that by this weekend he will have a “very important announcement” that he plans on delivering on YouTube, Facebook, and through email.
We ask that you continue to lift him up in prayer and are encouraged for what lies ahead.”
I don’t know about you but I can’t wait and pray that it is happy news…I miss him on EWTN!
On a happy note, this year Father Corapi is celebrating his 20th anniversary since his ordination STOP THE PRESS!! This man has only, ONLY, been a priest for 20 years???? Have you ever heard him? Okay, if you don’t believe in God using us and his priests to speak through them, you have to hear this man! He explains so much in such a short time and it is so clear…crystal clear, only the Lord can send messages like that! Here’s a glimpse of it:
From their website: “Now, commemorating his baptism and 20th anniversary of ordination, we are reducing prices on the entire inventory for the remainder of the month of June. 50% OFF ENTIRE INVENTORY, to take advantage of this offer, you must use the coupon “June2011” in the checkout process!” Also, visit him on Facebook!
Can’t wait to see him again, how about you? Blessings,
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The closing of our Parish back in Miami, brought great sadness to our family. It was a our home there, we had great family and friends there, history was made there…we exchanged out vows in our Sacrament of Matrimony, saw our second and third children be Baptized, many fond memories of this small and beautiful little church Near the Miami River in Florida. My only wish was that I had taken more pictures and spent more time with our Pastor asking questions about its rich history.
As I stop to think about Saint Robert Bellarmine’s in Miami, I realize that our family is not alone. Across the US, there are many other families like ours, reminicing the closing of their home parishes due to restructuring of the different Diocese and of course, our horrible economy. Yes, sadly, we are not alone!
Book cover
Which leaves you with this question, “How do you capture the richness of these parishes?” Author Sarah Piccini had an inovative idea, she documented the history of the people of 10 parishes in the Diocese of Scranton in Pennsylvania, then got together with photographer Ivana Pavelka & ARTS Engage and together they captured these ten beautiful parishes in a book entitled, Framing Faith: A Pictorial History of Communities of Faith.
Looking through this beautiful book, I can’t help but feel like I’ve been taken back through time to parishes with not just the Catholic history that they embody, but also the history of many immigrants and their families. To see the pictures of the cornerstones and see the dates some as old as 1895, just facisnates me. Some written in Polish for those communities rich with these families starting to make roots in a new country. This book conveys to its reader, the positive impact that Catholic immigrants from Poland, Slovakia, Italy, Germany, and Lithuania made to the Scranton Diocese. What an incredibly thoughtful and beautiful idea it was for these two very talented ladies to have created this lovely book!
Here’s a synopsis of the book:
An additional neat feature about this book is that it was part of a program called ARTS Engage! “ARTS Engage! is a program whose mission is to build social skills through the arts by allowing students to create work and work with professional artists. This project allowed students to develop photography skills by working with a high caliber artist such as Ivana Pavelka and the documentation of ethnic churches offered a unique place-based learning experience about our cultural history.” Maureen McGuigan, Deputy Director of Arts and Culture, Lackawanna County
Framing Faith tells the story of the faith of immigrants and their descendants, spotlighting 10 Catholic churches in the Diocese of Scranton that were closed due to restructuring. The churches are:
The churches have rich ethnic heritages. They are Polish, Slovak, Italian, German, and Lithuanian parishes with long traditions and deep roots. Each church was founded by immigrant groups who came to the coal fields of the Lackawanna Valley with little more than their faith in God. Their churches served as the center of the community and touchstones of the Old Country. Framing Faith traces their histories from small beginnings through baptisms, weddings and funerals to their final celebrations. Throughout the text are images from each church, visual reminders of what was for many an important part of their lives.
It was truly a pleasure reviewing this book. I could not tell you which parish I liked the most because each one had such amazing stories or the place was just heavenly, that I could not pick just one. I might favor Sacred Heart in Mayfield, but I’m partial to anything and anyone with that title 😉
Stained Glass of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Sacred Heart Church
Stations of the Cross, Sacred Heart Church
Immaculate Mary and Sacred Heart of Jesus, Sacred Heart Church
This book honors all of those parishioners and priests that served and loved and worshipped our Lord in beautiful parishes. I wish more authors and photographers would capture these unforgetable churches throughout the US, as these two lovely ladies have done so well in this great book. If you have ties to the Northern Pennsylvania area or just the fact that you love older traditional churches and their rich history, I recommend that you add Framing Faith to your Catholic library.
Paperback, $24.95 96 pgs., 8.5″ x 11″, ISBN 9780982256589
PDF eBook, $4.95
Kindle, $2.99
iPad, $4.99
Nook, $4.95
Google, $3.79
DISCLOSURE: I was provided a PDF e-book version of this book by Tribute Books in exchange for my honest review of it.
Hope you enjoyed this review! Many Blessings, Mama Erika
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
SARAH PICCINI graduated from the University of Scranton with a degree in History and Communications. In 2010, she received a Master’s degree in History focusing on the ethnic and labor history of the Lackawanna Valley. She collaborates with the Lackawanna Historical Society on many projects and programs, and serves the Vice President of the board for the Anthracite Heritage Museum and Iron Furnaces Associates.
IVANA PAVELKA is a co-founder and co-manager of the photographic gallery Camerawork in Scranton and is a professional photographer who has had many solo and group shows. Her professional career includes teaching in the art department at Keystone College (La Plume, PA), giving workshops and residencies as a rostered artist in schools, and working as a commercial photographer. She is also a professional bookbinder who was trained in European methods in Prague, where she grew up. When she came to the United States in 1980, she free-lanced as a bookbinder for such institutions as the Metropolitan Museum of Art. She has lived in Tunkhannock, Pennsylvania, since 1991. Ivana Pavelka, photographer on Facebook
About two years ago, when my cell phone rang and one of my kids brought it running to me (screen face up so I could see the caller ID), I was excited to see it was a close friend from Florida. I dried my hands as quickly as I could (don’t you just hate how quickly the calls go to voicemail) and grabbed the phone pressing the green button. “Hi, my friend how are you?,” I asked him but on the other end what I heard was sadness, “I have bad news, the Archbishop is closing a bunch of churches and St. Robert Bellarmine is on the list!,” he said as my heart sank. St. Robert’s???
How could it be? It was the church where my beloved and I married, where I learned the beauty of the Latin Mass (when to stand, how to pray it, etc.) and it was where two of my five children were Baptised. How could it be???
But really, I was not surprised because St. Robert Bellarmine is a small church in a poor section of town. Most of its parishioners were from other parts of Miami (us being one of them) but the rest of our Church friends lived in the neighborhood. It was a poor parish…but in my heart I thought…it’s one of the parishes that needed to stay open, for the very same reason…it was in a poor section of town! Most of the people walked to Mass, now where were they going to go? My heart broke. So I went to the Archdiocese of Miami’s website and sure enough, in black and white, was the name of the church!
I quickly wanted to see pictures, to remember how beautiful it is (these are the ones I used for my anniversary (July 23rd) photobook):
Pages 5, 10, 11, 14, and 15, give you a feel for what it looked like inside and also it’s beautiful little courtyard and Parish hall….it’s a small church, but beautiful nonetheless!
Isn’t it so sad that so many churches are closing down? It’s a sad thing to see…I just wish that I could win the lottery to give them all the money they need to pay off loans and keep their doors open, it’s so important!!! So people, lets not complain anymore when we see that basket come around during collection, let’s give and tithe like the best of them. Did you know that the Bible asks us to tithe 10%? It’s possible, I’ve seen people do it….I think this is something my family and many others really need to pray about and reconsider to keep more church doors open! Blessings,
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